Join the “TLS” writers in a roundtable discussion every Monday on The Loop Sports! This Week we talk the Bulls lack of front office direction and the Chris Bosh rumblings, as well as the White Sox stalled Jose Quintana trade discussions.
The Loop Sports Staff Roundtable for the week of January 23, 2017:
The Bulls were reported to be interested in signing Chris Bosh this summer, what are your thoughts on a potential Bosh/Wade reunion in Chicago in 2017-2018?
Patrick Flowers: This has to be the worst idea in Chicago in recent memory. Chris Bosh is beyond his prime, battling severe health issues, and hasn’t played basketball since last season. The Bulls are already looking to move last summer’s head-scratching signing in Rajon Rondo, because it’s been just short of disastrous thus far.
Why continue to subject the fans to these aimless moves that are ultimately just wasting Jimmy Butler‘s prime years of his career? I don’t know who I feel worse for, the fans who are forced to consume this mediocre mess, or Butler who plays heavy minutes night after night while carrying this team on his back just to hover around the bottom of the Eastern Conference playoff picture. Either way, no thanks on the Bosh idea, and no thanks on any other moves that don’t involve youth or draft picks as a return as well.
Benjamin Davis: I am not happy about it. I do not believe Bosh helps the team in any way other than adding another perimeter threat. This team needs to stop looking at veterans and start pursuing young talent that can shape the future of the franchise.
I’m sure these will decrease slightly, factoring rust and his age, but it would still be an improvement over any of the Bulls’ current big men. Additionally, he could help mentor younger big men like Bobby Portis. As long as his price isn’t too high, it should be a good investment.
Owen Schoenfeld: Why must we continue to pretend it’s 2010. Is management trying to rectify a blatantly missed opportunity, you know, when the big three converged in South Beach instead of Chicago. What’s next? A 37 year-old LeBron James joining 40 year-old Dwyane Wade and a crumbling Chris Bosh in 2022?
Is that where we’re headed because pursuing Bosh in 2017 is just as asinine. He’s missed over 25 games in each of his last two seasons and his career is literally on blood thinners. Not to make light of a rather serious situation, but as a fan, I’d much prefer seeing Chris Bosh lead a healthy life than watch him play through blood clots. It’s time to ride out the string in 2017 and start pinching pennies. A big name needs to come to Chicago this summer, and it’s certainly not Chris Bosh.
Nick Petrusevski: The Bulls are a joke. There is no other way to put it. Why, why, why would they want Chris Bosh? He’s 32 and past his prime. Yes, I understand that he’s close friends with Wade, but what would he provide in 2017 other than a distraction.
Signing Rondo has been a disaster, signing Bosh wouldn’t be much better. At this point, Gar And Pax are a joke. As I’m writing this I heard a rumor that the Bulls want Ricky Rubio. Again, why? I think you hold onto Jimmy Butler, but everyone else should be on the market.
Are you in favor of holding on to Jose Quintana until the trade deadline, or would you prefer Rick Hahn to get a deal done before Opening Day, even if that means he has to budge slightly on his demands?
Patrick Flowers: I am definitely in favor of the White Sox getting a move done before Opening Day. “The White Sox are in no rush to move Jose Quintana, they can move him in July or next winter”… Sure they could do that, and they could also offset the MLB arrival time of two groups of prospects acquired, Quintana could face injury this season, he could see a decline in performance, he could be left vulnerable by a stop-gap offense of fillers and youngsters in 2017.
All of those scenario’s would result in Quintana losing value, and ultimately bringing back a deal that Hahn could get right now if he was to loosen the grips on his demands just ever so slightly. The difference is that return in July, or next winter would be six months to a year behind the bulk of the White Sox current top prospects in terms of development and MLB readiness.
Benjamin Davis: I believe Jose Quintana is the kind of asset that Hahn can wait as long as he needs to in order to get the return he wants. Young, controllable pitchers like Quintana sell themselves, and if netting the optimal return means waiting til mid-season, so be it.
The challenge for Rick Hahn will be to survey the field and evaluate whether or not the discounted packages he’s seeing now balance with the risk of holding his cards. In other words, if the White Sox want players X, Y, and Z from the Pirates, is the value of player Z (theoretically the current hold up) worth the risk? Does budging on Z dilute the overall surplus value of the package lower than the risk-adjusted value and opportunity cost of keeping Quintana. If the answer is no, then it’s time to pull the trigger.
Nick Petrusevski: Personally, I would like to see the White Sox trade Quintana before spring training. Hell, even before Sox fest. However, the right deal has to be offered. There is no need to rush into anything because come July contenders will be desperate for a starting pitcher like Q. Maybe, the White Sox could get better package for him then. Either way Rick Hahn has proved to be patient and I expect the same to continue going forward.