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Chicago Sports Roundtable: Time to Move on from Hoiberg?, Best Way to Handle All-Star Voting

Join the “TLS” writers in a roundtable discussion every Monday on The Loop Sports! This Week we talk about the Bulls moving on from Fred Hoiberg, and our views on the voting system’s in professional All-Star Game’s

The Loop Sports Staff Roundtable for the week of January 30, 2017:

Is it time for the Bulls to move on from Fred Hoiberg? If not, what’s the solution in Chicago?

Source: Michael Reaves/Getty Images North America
Source: Michael Reaves/Getty Images North America

Patrick Flowers: The Bulls took their meltdown public last week with Dwyane Wade and Jimmy Butler erupting to the media after blowing a 10-point lead over the Atlanta Hawks at home, and then Rajon Rondo took to social media to fire back at the Bulls stars. This week was proof of two things, 1. The Bulls locker room is in as much disarray as Fred Hoiberg’s rotations, 2. Fred Hoiberg has no control of his locker room and commands little-to-no respect from his players.

Both of those are evidence that Hoiberg is not capable of the job of leading the Bulls. It’s time for everyone not wearing jersey number 21 to go, and that includes Hoiberg. Blow it up, build around Butler, like you intended to do last summer before reversing course and putting this circus together.

Matt Grabianski: It’s time to move on from everybody. Fred Hoiberg is currently a part of the team and isn’t named Jimmy Butler so, yeah, he needs to go.

Anders Johanson: As we’ve seen in Chicago sports in recent years a coaching change can either immediately change things for the better or make things worse right away. Look at the Bears and the way their season went for a good example of the negative, but then you have a guy like Joe Maddon leading the Cubs to a World Series championship. A coaching shakeup with the Bulls could be a good thing but as we’ve seen in Reinsdorf-owned teams in the past sometimes the wrong guy way overstays his welcome.

Matt Smith: Red Auerbach couldn’t get this team to the No. 4 seed. The roster is about as bad as it gets. No depth. Minimal youth. Poor perimeter shooting. Nominal paint presence. Leadership issues. Assists recorded on basketballs to the face. Just terrible.

So no, a change in coaching won’t fix the problem no matter how ill-fitted for the NBA that coach might be. If anything, keep Hoiberg around until you’re ready to compete at a high level with talented roster and then find someone capable of leading a group deep into the playoffs.

Tim Moran: Absolutely. As was mentioned on the podcast, Hoiberg has lost control of the locker room. He doesn’t command the same respect someone like Tom Thibodeau did, and the Bulls are paying the price. Players calling each other out in interviews and on social media should be the last straw for Jerry Reinsdorf/GarPax (who should be fired too).

Hoiberg deserved a chance with a new team to run his style of play, but the project hasn’t worked on or off the court, as the whole organization seems dysfunctional. It’s time to blow it up, and that starts with management as well as players.

Benjamin Davis: I wish I could say it was time to move on from Hoiberg, and I believe it is, but I truly believe Reinsdorf will not sign off on paying another coach dead money for the next few years. I truly don’t know where we can go from here especially if the plan is to keep Jimmy Butler, because the rest of talent on this team will bring very little value back. If we can make a few smaller trades, maybe we can turn this thing around, as there is some talent, but there is no clear solution for this organization right now.

On last week’s episode of The Damn Ryan Show, we touched on the broken fan voting system of All-Star Games, how would you like to see the All-Star’s selected moving forward?

2017 NHL Winter Classic Practice
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Patrick Flowers: The voting system is one that is largely broken, and needs to be changed. The NBA has the best idea at this point, with the vote being a split between the fans, the media, and the coaches.

The only change that I would like to see made to that system would be the tie-breaker being the coaches vote, as opposed to the fan vote as it currently stands. The NBA system pretty much got it right this season, except for Stephen Curry starting over Russel Westbrook in the Western Conference. That was a result of the fan vote being used as a tie-breaker, and would have went in the correct direction had the choice been left to the coaches. I would like to see all of the major professional sports league’s adopt the NBA All-Star Game voting system moving forward.

Matt Grabianski: Fans can vote for sure – it’s definitely more fun that way. What needs to be included is a rigorous form of checking. Fan vote should count for a portion, but a very small one. I think the NHL has it right with the fans only choosing the team captains.

Anders Johanson: On the podcast last week I suggested that writers and coaches could select the starting players while fans vote to fill out the bench. I think this would really work because then the right players would end up starting the game instead of a situation where we have nearly the whole Royals starting lineup or the entire Cubs infield, or a guy like Artemi Panarin not being selected. The deserving players would get in but the fans would still be involved, which I think is part of the fun of games like this.

Matt Smith: I’m with Anders on this. Coaches and writers select the starters while fans fill in the bench. Only way to ensure that individual performances are recognized while also giving fans a voice. Starting in an All-Star game is not about popularity. It is about performance. And while we won’t eliminate bias completely, giving the responsibility of naming starters to coaches and writers minimizes the likelihood that Alcides Escobar starts another All-Star Game at shortstop.

Tim Moran: Fans deserve a vote- but definitely not the whole vote. It’s a great idea to include your consumers in shaping your product (All-Star Game), but the product should turn out well, and as we see with guys like Russell Westbrook not starting, it’s not.

So I propose this: For each league, fans select a few more players than will play in the game, for example, in the NBA they would select 15 guys for each team, to be narrowed down to 10/12. Then, from there, the media and coaches narrow it down and then select the starters for the game. This way, fans have a say, but the extra few spots allow for more knowledgeable people to make the tough decisions and determine who should start.

Benjamin Davis: In my opinion, an All-Star game should be completely up to the fans and the players, and no one else. The event is THE fan event for the NBA season, and the voting should follow suit.


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